Friday

Unwrapping the Onion: Part 9: Starting a New Life


This post is the final post in a series. Please click here to start with the series Introduction.


It’s the spring of 2012 now, and we’ve moved to a new home in a new city and are making new friends and starting over. We’ve officially left the ministry and are making new career plans. My spouse has begun transition and she has been able to go by her new name and female pronouns publicly now after using them at home for months. Only now there is no second guessing over what she can wear when we go out. There is no tripping over which name to use. It’s only been a few months, but she has said “I’m so happy!” with enough frequency that it has actually gotten downright annoying at times. For the first time my spouse can just be. She is so relaxed, and it all seems so right for her, it has become strange to try and think of her in any other way.


We’ve begun to forge a new community living our lives openly. We hope to make connections through work and school, we are already making inroads in the LGBTQ community and a local accepting church we’ve attended on occasion. We’ve also been pleasantly surprised by the support of some old friends, and the deepening of new friendships. When I announced that we were moving a short time ago, Joe Sands from Incongruous Circumspection (whom I had never met in person) discovered that we were moving to their area, and promptly informed me that he and his wife Kristine would be happy to help us move in. At first I sort of dodged, hoping that like most polite offers, he didn’t really mean it, but he persisted in telling me again and again to let them know when we were moving in. And so, I sent him an abbreviated version of our story, explaining that although they knew me from my blog as a woman married to a man, they would be meeting us at our new home as a lesbian couple and why that was the case. Within minutes their reply came back saying that it did not matter to them (or in Joe's own own words "he doesn't care"), and that they would still love to help us move. And then they proceeded to drive 40 minutes with all their children in tow, to meet some strangers at their new apartment at 7 o’clock on a Sunday night and help them unload their truck. And they didn’t stop there, they have invited us into their home, shared meals with us, and even babysat our children. The people we have met along this journey have changed our lives, and given us hope.


I wrote in January that my word for the year was acceptance, and how I felt afraid, and I still have some fears over so many new things, like getting a job, going to school, and putting my oldest into school. But as we’ve taken this next step into living life with all pretenses dropped, I am strangely not afraid of my spouse living authentically. We met as very limited people, both trying to do the “right” thing. We married so quickly, hardly knowing each other, much less the secrets each of us were hiding. And yet as we both changed and grew to the point where we came out to ourselves and each other, we were each able to find acceptance and understanding in our partner. We found freedom side by side, and after that crazy journey, were surprised to find that we fit together better than we ever could have imagined. It’s an unbelievable love story, a modern day fairy tale.


And yet, the word acceptance has served me well as a reminder to accept relatives where they are at, as well as the reactions from family and friends as we’ve come out. Telling our parents and friends about the changes in our lives was probably one of the scariest things we have ever done. But it was time, we were no longer unsure of what direction we were headed, and it was getting awkward to be tripping over my own spouse’s name while on the phone with someone who didn’t know the whole story.


We expected the worst, and it has been hard. We’ve had some hurtful statements, but many of our family and friends have responded more with sorrow and confusion than hate and anger, and that is encouraging. As much as we love them, if they are hurt by us living our lives there is nothing we can do about that. We try to love and accept them where they are at, even if their beliefs tell them that we are horribly wrong. It is not our job to try and educate them or make them change their minds. That has to be their journey just as it has been ours. We love our families, and we hope to continue relationship with them if they want that.


One of the things that has surprised me the most has been how many people have expressed shock that we are monogamous. It is as if they think being gay or transgender somehow means you no longer have the ability or inclination to be faithful to one person. We have been married for seven years and neither of us has ever cheated on the other. Furthermore, neither of us are interested anything other than monogamy. We are happily married and partnered in life. My spouse is a woman attracted to women, and I am a woman attracted to women. Everything we have been through together has only made us closer as a couple. Why would we want to leave each other?


Thankfully, the kids have adjusted well. They have gradually switched on their own time from calling my spouse “Daddy” to calling her “Dee.” They still have both parents loving and caring for them daily. When they’ve asked questions we’ve answered honestly. If they need further help now or at some point in the future we would not hesitate to get it for them. I have hopes that as time goes on society will become more and more accepting of diversity in families. Recently I overheard Ms Action chatting with one of her little friends. The friend mentioned their dad and Ms Action said, “Dee is kind of like the dad in our family, she’s awesome.” They are happy that their parent is being herself, just as we encourage them to be themselves.


This experience has been part of our abandoning gender roles. Obviously gender roles made no sense if we were actually both the same gender, but as we started to consider each other as equals we really had to question the idea in general. Why the assumption that anyone is better at anything based solely on what sex they are? All that time I spent waiting for my spouse to put together the crib or hang the pictures, and it turns out I’m the one who is handy with tools. And the kids respond way better to their Dee wrestling them into pajama’s each night. I really have to wonder why society feels the need to push such extreme gender roles and images. Why can’t people just be who they are and use their gifts and talents accordingly? Unfortunately our society still shames and even shuns people who don’t fully conform to gender roles, and I believe this limits so much opportunity for people to discover what they are good at and what they enjoy. I am looking forward to learning things I never allowed myself to consider because of my gender.

Obviously this journey has played a part in my faith as well. I just have not been able to relate my experience with the religious idea of conformity. In becoming healthy authentic people, both of us have been left largely without a spiritual home. Most Christian groups do not recognize our reality as valid, claiming that we are choosing to live sinful sordid lives and telling all kinds of lies about people like us to bolster their claims. I cannot understand why a god would create such diversity in people and then demand that they all live the same life in the exact same manner. This is not my only question regarding Christianity (I’ve written about my questions regarding penal substitutionary atonement, prayer and more), but it is a huge barrier to my even being interested anymore. So where am I at religiously? Where would you be if you had my story? We don't know where we fit anymore. After studying for and serving the church for years my spouse discovered there wasn’t room for her for her to be more authentic, let alone transition. It’s hard to believe in a god who creates people that his followers do not affirm or welcome. It’s hard to feel respected when you are told to divorce your spouse simply because they are being honest about who they are.


Watching anti-LGBTQ politics largely fueled by religion, has taken on a new light, because now it is MY family that is being attacked. Many people seem to think that my family shouldn’t exist. But we do, and we are just the same as any other family. We work hard to provide for our kids health and education. We have our issues and quirks like any other people. We still work to heal from problems of the past, and strive to learn more about gentle respectful parenting. We still eat and go for walks together, wash our kids’ hands and faces, read stories at bedtime and sometimes play hide and seek or have tickling wars. In most ways, we are just your average family. The person you have gotten to know through my writing, is still the same person.


I am now in the process of starting my first job ever and my Hunnie is in beauty school just like she’s wanted to for so long. I am enrolling in school part-time this summer. I honestly have no idea what I am going to major in - that journey remains to be discovered. We feel excited about the future. We are independent, living our own lives for the first time. I am proud to be married to someone as strong and brave as my spouse, someone who has battled through depression and thoughts of suicide and despair is now waking up every day with a smile on her face, excited about what the day will bring. She is an overcomer. Thirty percent of transgender people commit suicide, and I am grateful that wasn’t my Hunnie’s story. When I was in counseling my therapist asked me if I felt any resentment towards my spouse over all this. And as I thought it through, I could truthfully say no. Yes, I have had questions and struggles, and yes, it hasn’t been easy, but if I could go back in time knowing what I know now I would marry her all over again. She held my hand as I journeyed out of depression, has continued to encourage me to discover my own interests, took the initiative to end corporal punishment in our home permanently, and continues to be my partner, co-parent, lover, and friend.


I am proud to face the world with her at my side.


Thank you for reading.

*At the time I wrote and published this series, my spouse asked me not to use her name. A short time later she changed her mind, so I wanted to add here that that her name is Haley.*

278 comments:

  1. Aw, that is a very sweet story. I am glad you are happy with your lives now and wish you much joy together in the future.

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  2. As well you should be. Bravo to acceptance and for living your truth. It's been an honor to read along.

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  3. Slow clap... standing ovation... beautiful story.

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  4. Following this series has been both moving and interesting. I'll keep following.
    Best of luck to you both.

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  5. Thank you for sharing this beautiful story. Your children are blessed to have such open, hard working parents. And your story of the growth of mutual love and self love in your marriage is inspiring. I believe that you are creating such live within your family and peace in our world through your authenticity and honesty.

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  6. Wow. What an honest, courageous description of a journey. I'm so glad the destination was worth getting to. *hugs* from a stranger for all your family.

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  7. What a beautiful ending to your story! I wish you and your family all the happiness in the world :)

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  8. I am in awe. I wish you and your family all the very best in this next stage of your lives.

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  9. I waited until the end of this story to comment, because I wanted to read it all. This is such an amazing read. You're a wonderful writer, Melissa. Your story is sweet and thought provoking. Thank you for sharing it and allowing me to read it. It makes me even more determined in my chosen course. I wish you and your adorable family all the best as you move forward. I love happy endings. And while yours may not be perfect, I think it's perfect for you and that's the best kind of perfect there is.

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    1. I like that, because no family is perfect, but it is working just fine for us.

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  10. Thank you so much for sharing your beautiful story! I have waited with bated breath for each installment and am so happy for you both. Looking forward to hearing your regular blog posts about your new-normal lives. All the best to you!

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  11. *tears* i wish i could squeeze both of you in real life. what a story...blessings to you as you continue this journey. xo.

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    1. Maybe someday we will meet in person Rain, until then know that all the virtual hugs and squeezes have meant the world to me.

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  12. What an incredible love story! I am near tears reading it. Thank you for sharing it- you are both such brave women.

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  13. Thank you for sharing that. The world needs to hear about it. And you are both so lucky to have each other!

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  14. Congratulations. And there is room for all kinds of families at the Unitarian Universalist church if you ever want to check us out. You are welcome at our table.

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  15. The strength and bravery both you and your Hunnie have exhibited is rare. Thank you for opening up and being willing to tell of your journey. It is easy to dehumanize the LGBTQ community until you hear a personal story. It's easy to be "them" and "us" until you realize that "them" are real people, with real hearts, and real feelings. Until you realize that "them" are not freaks and weirdos, but regular people trying to make it in this life like everyone else.

    Hugs to you both for living authentically.

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  16. You don't need to thank me for reading - I need to thank you for writing.
    Best wishes to you and your family.

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  17. I'm glad the two of you have reached a place of love and happiness. You deserve it! Thank you for sharing your story.

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  18. Darn it, you're making me sniffly at work again...

    Good on both of you. That's an amazing story, and I'm so glad that you've been able to support each other and stay together and make sure the children are still supported as well. (Maybe even more supported!)

    The fact that some people can't understand how that could possibly work is... well, it's sad, for one thing. But their lack of understanding is far, far less important than the fact that your {marriage/partnership/family} does work. (It's kind of funny how something that's supposed to be such a big change turns out not to change much at all, isn't it? I don't know, I'm looking in from the outside, but it seems that way to me.)

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    1. Yes, starting transition has really been more natural than anything else. The big changes have been moving across an international border and starting the job hunt.

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    2. By my reading, Joe seems to be in the US -- which means you were in Canada previously? (In which case, our loss). Up here, there'd be no legal question about your marital status.

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    3. Eamon- Yep, we were US citizens living in Canada for the last 3 years. It's good to have the rights of a citizen again, but we will miss some things about Canada for sure!

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  19. A truly beautiful and wonderful story. Now that you have finished it, I plan to link it to everyone I knokw. It is just too good, too inspiring not to.

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  20. Beautiful ending to a wonderful story. It really is a modern-day fairy tale. Once again, thank you for sharing.

    Adele

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  21. Thank you so much for sharing your story! I also grew up in a conservative Christian homeschooled family, and last year my baby sister came out as transgender. He's in the process of transitioning right now, and I've been in the position of being the only fully supportive family member. Family's reactions to things like this can be really, really hard, and it's so encouraging to hear someone else's story of courage and love.

    - Ginny

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    1. Ginny- Thanks for being there for your sibling, I can speak from experience when I say that a loving understanding family member can mean the world to someone going through transition.

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  22. Hooray! I'm so happy you've shared your story and your family. I echo above comments about giving you a round of applause just because your relationship has grown in the best of ways :D

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  23. Melissa, what a beautiful story. I am continually amazed that you two found each other essentially randomly. And I find your point about you breaking out of a gender role too very interesting. In a way you are doing a similar thing, except of course that your imposed set of expectations is only followed by a small portion of society and they are no external physical indicators that you're "supposed" to be pregnant with number six, and homeschooling and asking permission to drive home via Sears.

    Love, Sarah

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    1. it was not random!!!

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    2. Oh I agree! To me this was a story of soulmates who did exactly everything right <3 Thank you for sharing Melissa, your story was inspiring and beautiful and very touching. Best of luck to you and your family {{hugs}}

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  24. I love a happy ending. Or in this case, a happy beginning.

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  25. Wow, what a story. I wish you much happiness in the future.

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  26. Great story!! You are a great writer, Melissa. Perhaps you should return to that journalism bug you had when you were younger. I think you'd be great!

    And, as a commenter above pointed out, you should check out Unitarian Universalism. I'm a member and it fits me well. No one would even bat an eye at an LBGT couple. I've grown in my understanding of the LGBT from just being there myself. It really exposed me to a lot of different people from those I knew in the community I grew up in. It's opened my mind and made it even more accepting than I ever was. It's a good place.

    If you want to keep into Christianity, you might check out UCC (United Church of Christ) which we UUs call our Christian cousins--they are very open-minded and welcoming. Also, you might check out the Episcopal Church--they too are very welcoming and similar to Catholicism in ritual.

    Good luck on all of your journeys!

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    1. Second! I'm a christian in the UCC and I think your family is blessed and beloved by god. To me there is no contradiction at all between god's love and the love between you and your spouse. As the commenter said below, we are "open and affirming". Blessings on your journey!

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    2. Agreed! There are so many branches of Christianity who truly believe that God's love is for all people, and the UUs are a wonderful community to worship and explore in love and acceptance. Wherever you end up religiously, please don't let the fear and confusion of some taint your spiritual experience. It's about love, God is always about love.

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    3. The first thing that came to my mind as I reached the end of this post, and of this wonderful series, was to suggest that you check out the Unitarian Universalists. I see several people already beat me to it! :-D Each congregation has its own personality and feel, as with any community or group, but they are united by a spirit of open-minded inquiry. In a nutshell, the UU's believe that in the spiritual life, the journey IS the destination. They are less about telling you what to believe and more about asking you to figure out for yourself what YOU truly believe. Check them out, and thank you for posting your story and your spouse's. Best to both of you!

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  27. I love that your story has a happy ending!! I love what you said about gender roles...you're better with tools and she's great at putting the kids to bed. Very liberating, IMO! So happy for you and your family!! Thanks for sharing your story!!

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  28. So, when can we expect your book to come out?? Really! I have been following you for some time now and will continue to do so. I too come from a plain religious background and still find it challenging to be authentic with certain people and in certain situations. You inspire me to be REAL! Thank-you!!

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  29. I rarely, if ever, comment on blogs or other internet articles...but I feel compelled to do so now. Thank you for your courage. Your story has provided so many of us with an inspiring example of the healing power of unconditional love and honesty to others and most importantly, to oneself. Talk about a teachable moment.

    Also, as a new parent who is also reconciling and rejecting many aspects of her childhood (which, while essentially non-religious, was deeply impacted by a parent with mental illness), I admire your strength as a mother and have learned much about parenting from you (and Libby Anne, through whom I was introduced to your blog).

    Thank you for being you. And thank you to your wife for being herself.

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  30. Well, I'm blubbering like a baby. Thank you so much for sharing, it's one of the best love stories I've ever read.

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  31. Thank you for sharing your story!

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  32. WOW! What a wonderful story to share. You are truly someone that we could all learn from on how to live an authentic life. Thanks for sharing your story. Much happiness to you and your family!

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  33. Thank you so much for sharing this! Hugs to you and your spouse. This Christian supports you wholeheartedly :)

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  34. You forgot to mention your cookin' makes us swoon and THAT is why we like y'all.

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    1. Thanks for reminding me, I have to post that Chicken curry corn chowder recipe!

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    2. Yep, melissa is quite the gourmet chef!!!

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  35. I have been gradually saddened as I read this series and the comments. Because no one understands the depth of pain to work through. I certainly don't, and it is probably a gift that you don't, even as none of us really know what will come in our lives. And it kills me a little that those cheering most for you seem most blind to all that still has to be worked through. The skewed gender roles from our childhoods (and yes, I think mine was fairly close to yours) are no joke. And since you have so much more to deal with it is obviously that much more difficult.

    Perhaps the other comments are hiding a deeper understanding that leads them to focus on any bright spot they can find. And if so, then that is a blessing.

    I hope that you find a community and are able to cultivate tremendous friendships. I can't understand you because I don't know how much you are translating this back into the language from which you came, and how much you are still a part of what you always have been. But it is clear that you are working to embrace life and love, and that is wonderful. I hope that you will find a community of faith that can help you on your journey. There are many out there, just think of all the evil liberals denounced by those who ordained your spouse. ;-)

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    1. Hey Rae,
      Yes, there has been so much pain to work through, and there continues to be pain in the loss of people who have left us because of this journey, there are still triggers to work through from the past, and there are many unknown things in the future. But do any of us really know when something unknown is going to show up on our doorstep? We are just grateful that we have people who love and support us even when they don't understand, and that we have each other and our kids. Each step has only brought more overall peace, as I learn to trust my gut for the first time.

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  36. You are walking and have been walking your journey with tremendous courage in the face of all that you began with (the baggage from your upbringing, etc.). I think your honesty and truthfulness is the best aspect you can bring to your spiritual journey, as you have done in this entire journey. How can anyone go wrong with that? If God has those qualities or attributes (if one believes in or is considering whether there is a God), then those qualities will be welcome in the search, I would think, as well as the person who is searching with those qualities.

    Ms. Action's comment was incredibly touching.

    Not an anonymous who has commented in this series, but one who has respectfully followed what you have shared and been very moved by your experiences and how you have shared them.

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  37. You and your story are incredible. I came across this blog a month ago and have been enthralled with it ever since. I hope all the best for you and your family on your journey.

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  38. ...there's something in my eye...yeah, that's it...

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  39. You really weren't kidding about unwrapping that onion, were you? I totally cried.

    Thank you for writing this series.

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  40. I've been lurking here for a little over a year. It's really hard to find others who understand the spiritual battles and "issues" of abused Christians. Your story has been fascinating to read, and I am so happy for you! I wish you much love and happiness!

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  41. What an amazing story. Thanks so much for sharing it with such candor and heartfelt love. Finding the right town to live as an openly lesbian couple helps a lot. My partner and I have been raising kids in Austin, Texas for years and found little disruption to the normal experiences for our kids. (even in what is known as a conservative suburb) We are both involve at school and have had several teachers ask us to be class parents or have commented at the end of the year that they wish more parents were as involved. The best comments were the ones that came from teachers that were clearly uncomfortable with us in the beginning. While the kids were in elementary, we began each year with a meeting with the teacher to help them understand our family and the learning styles of the kids. While some were uncomfortable, universally, they were a great way to start the year. I am happy to share that we have happy, well adjusted, academically achieving teenagers that have had no visible life changes based on our relationship. We even have kids that have become activists for rights and marriage equality.

    I wish you all the happiness in the world and hope you find love and acceptance in your new community. I also hope you find a new church home that fits your beliefs and values. After a bad experience when I came out, it took me 15 years to get comfortable with church again. My beliefs never changed, I just couldn't get past those religions and people that used their beliefs as a weapon. Finding a church home that exemplifies the love and acceptance that is a core to my beliefs, was a great moment for me and I wish you the same.

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  42. Amazing story, that I'm sure took a lot of courage to put out in public. Best of wishes to your family.

    Also, like some other commenters, I find the breaking gender roles theme interesting (actually, a bit startling). Most of the things you describe your spouse as doing when (then) he starts to transition are things that either A) my wife seldom or never does (like wear makeup) or B) we both did as a matter of course, like playing with our kids when they were little. For that matter, most of our friends who had kids around the same time as us, even the Catholic and evangelical ones, the dads changed diapers and played with their babies and toddlers. (Heck, I remember my Dad wrestling with me, 50 years ago -- and he was born in 1920!). So I find the idea that your church culture would define gender roles so narrowly, that this becomes a radical thing to do, just bizarre.

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    1. While much of the theology I grew up with dictates a very strong gender divide, I also remember my dad changing daipers and playing with the kids on the floor. My spouse didn't do much more than occasional holding of the baby and reading them a few books until he was able to start being himself instead of spending much his energy surviving. I agree with you. I feel that gender expression is really based on each person's personality and has nothing to do with gender, and housework and childcare is something every person can be capable of. My spouse now does as much childcare and house care as I do, something I do not remember any of the dads in my childhood doing. I don't think that has a whole lot to do with her transition, (although it may have pushed us to start thinking about the issue more) it had to do with becoming more comfortable in her own skin and leaving the idea that any one person has to be exclusively responsible for anything based on their genetics.

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    2. Masculinity by rejection of femininity. its something my husband and I struggled with.

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  43. I've waited until the end to comment. I am so happy for you and your wonderful family. I wish you all the very best and am looking forward to reading future posts about your happy little family in a new chapter of your lives. ((hugs))

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  44. Great series, so glad I came across it! The picture that you chose to place with your final installment really just poked me right in the heart.

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  45. Beauty. Glad I took the time to read. Blessings to you both.

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  46. Thank you so much for telling your story. I admire you and your spouse tremendously for having the courage and strength to move through this process with your relationship intact. I wish you every blessing in this new chapter of your life!

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  47. Paula G V aka YukimiApril 27, 2012 at 2:15 PM

    ((Hugs)) I wish you all the best. Your strength and courage are a real example for me. This has been a very moving story of acceptance and self-discovery and I'm just5 so glad you are in a better place right now.

    I hope you don't have much problem with the transition process, just yesterday I was discussing on a chatbox the benefits of going to Thailand to get surgery because of their great skill (practice makes perfect XP). I wonder how much of the transitions process is in some way subsidised by the insurance/state in the US? Here with a firm psychological diagnosis, it is free.

    Anyway, enjoy your happiness, you so deserve it!

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  48. Thank you so much for sharing this.

    Wishing you much happiness and strength.

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  49. Your story made me cry with joy. Thank you for living your live authentically, and for sharing your story. Although I am not religious (I am a Jew who was raised Catholic) and I do not believe in god as "he" is described in many faiths, I do think that it is possible for people of Christian faith to have a relationship with god if their views differ from the church. Most of all, I am sending you and your family love! Thanks again for your bravery.

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  50. Your story is so wonderful and beautiful. I feel as if I have found a new friend and ally, even if I never meet you. I feel enriched for having read this. Thank you.

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  51. What a fantastic story! So glad to hear that things are working out for the both of you and I hope that other people in yours and Dee's situations get a chance to read this and see that there can be positive outcomes. Best wishes!

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  52. Thank you for sharing your family's story. I'm so happy for you and your spouse that you are so compatible and work so well together. I wish y'all the best :)

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  53. I'm glad that things have worked out as well as they have for you so far and I hope more things continue to go your way than not. You've certainly worked for peace and happiness through what seem to have been some pretty difficult circumstances. Since I wasn't raised in the sort of fundamentalist environment you've described in the past, I have difficulty relating though I do sort of understand. I can though, see the enormous gulf your spouse and you had to traverse to get from where you were to where you are. And I can see how near potential tragedy loomed. I'm not sure most people could have made that journey intact.

    Grace and peace to your whole family.

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  54. This is lovely and inspiring. Thank you for sharing it with the world. You have given us a gift.

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  55. Thank you so much for this story. It brought tears to my eyes! Best of luck to you and your family.

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  56. You have had me captivated Melissa and this has been a great series. :)

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  57. I had to read this right away as soon as I happened upon a link about it. I know that it hasn't been easy for you or your family, but I'm so very happy that you have so much support around you and things are ok...and will be ok.

    I have a family member who came out as a transgendered woman a few years ago and my husband and I have really been the only fully supportive family members. Others have now been educated and learned acceptance, but there are still others who seem like they'll never find acceptance. It's a really painful thing to watch and I wish I could do more than just speak out against intolerance. However, your story reminded me that she is also surrounded by a great circle of supportive friends - a true family.

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  58. I'm so happy for you and your spouse. Best of luck to you both.

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  59. Reading this series, I could not help but think of a particular T-shirt. It has a rainbow, and along the arc, it says "LGBTerrific!"

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    1. I am wearing this shirt right now! What's really 'terrific' in this story is the love and openness of a family supporting one another in becoming their authentic selves and pursuing their own path instead of one written for them by others, knowing that they are strong and safe enough to do this, even when it is scary and dangerous, because the people that really matter have their backs.

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  60. Thank you so much for this series Melissa. I was brought to tears of sadness and joy multiple times while reading it. I wish you and your beautiful family all the best.

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  61. Reading this series, I could not help but think of a particular T-shirt. It has a rainbow, and along the arc, it says "LGBTerrific!"

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  62. Petticoat PhilosopherApril 27, 2012 at 3:33 PM

    What a beautiful love story. *sigh* Wish I could hug every single one of you, so consider this a cyber-hug. :-)

    On another note, I'm so excited for you to be starting a new life and I'm THRILLED that you're going to school part-time soon! It's so exciting to think how you will absolutely thrive in a setting where your considerable intellectual gifts are valued and nurtured. Whatever you end up majoring in, I really hope that you end up taking some creative writing courses. You are a talented writer and have so much to say. With some good professors to encourage you and help you develop those talents further, you will be absolutely unstoppable. I know I would read anything you wrote. :-) I hope you'll keep us updated on your new endeavors and ideas. I am rooting for you 100%. :-)

    So glad that you and your spouse are both finally getting to be the people that you always were inside, in so many ways.

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  63. Your story is amazing. I wish you happiness as you go through this journey.

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  64. Hi! I read an article on Jezebel.com that linked to your blog and your story. It was so inspiring to hear about how you and your spouse have finally become the people you've always felt you were and wanted to be. I just wanted to thank you for being so open and brave about sharing your experience. You sound like such awesome and genuine people. Keep doing you :) Cheers!

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    1. I lInked here through Jezebel, too, and am so happy that you and your spouse have each other. My little guy has been saying he wants a daddy, and for a while my wife and I kept saying "well, you have two mamas. There are lots of kinds of families. ". Then yesterday I tried asking, Which daddy do you want? He named his godfather. I said, well, he's part if your family, and he's your god-dad. All was well. :). May your children feel that kind of love and support from your family and friends, even as they are fed and held by the beautiful circle of love you and your spouse have built.

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  65. crying. thanks for sharing this brave and beautiful story.

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  66. Be prepared for a sudden flood of comments, you've been written about on Jezebel http://jezebel.com/5905780/what-happens-when-a-quiverfull-dad-becomes-a-woman

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  67. Jezebel brought me here because I was curious about your story, but I'm staying because I love your writing. I look forward to reading more!

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  68. Wow - a thousand thanks for your brave story! I am so in awe of you and your spouse, working through this the way you have; your children will be in awe of you, too, when they grow up and realize what you have done. I'm so glad to have followed Libby Anne from Freethought Blogs to Patheos, to find her link to you!

    Even my becoming an atheist was difficult in my family. I can only dimly imagine what distress you've dealt with in yours. Be uplifted, in the bad times, by the knowledge that there are a lot of us strangers out here rooting for you!

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  69. It's stories like yours that help drive change in the public's thoughts and prejudices about LGBTQ people and families. I'm so happy you were able to find happiness together. Thank you for sharing your story.

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  70. Thank you so much for sharing your story, Melissa. I've really enjoyed and/or learned a lot from your blog over the past year or so, and even though I don't tend to be much of a commenter, I've also been waiting until the end to comment.
    My husband was raised in a very similar environment to ones that it sounds like you and your wife were. I shared your blog with him and he was in awe of the strength and love that you both possess (as was I). What really made cry (and I am definitely not a crier!) was the realization of how incredibly lucky your children are to have you and your spouse as parents.

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  71. This is an amazing story - I've been riveted, and checking several times a day in case the next part is up! When is the book coming out? You right so well, and have such a great story to tell I would love to see this series expanded into a book :)

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  72. Your story brought tears to my eyes, and I'm so thankful you chose to share your story. The more people who can share their stories, the more LGBTQ lifestyles will become part of the "norm" and no longer considered taboo, perverted or wrong. Thank you.

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  73. Just read about your story at jezebel.com and through your posts here. Wow, what a journey, I give you much props and credit for being so open and loving and enlightened and self-aware. My wish is that it comes back to you and your family one hundred-fold.

    I am also contemplating a change in my own relationship (though of a much less dramatic nature, and no kids involved) and your story is giving me courage to be fully who I am, with love and no recriminations or regrets, to jump off that cliff with the bungee cord to catch me...that is what it feels like for sure.

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  74. Wow, I also found your story through jezebel.com. Truly a beautiful story.

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  75. I found the link to your blog through Jezebel. I just wanted to thank you for your honesty and openness about the journey you and your spouse have taken together. Like yourself, I have struggled with a Christian upbringing and the role it has for women, and have refused to play the part I was told I should. It's good to know that we are not alone in this world for feeling different. Anyone who says differently may not understand the differences they themselves feel and respond by repression. Kudos to you for breaking free of that cycle.

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  76. This is so, so beautiful. Thank you so much for sharing and for being so eloquent. I had a hard time reading it simply because I was blinded with tears and I wish my partner was here so I could hug him.

    It sounds like you have many exciting and nerve-wracking changes ahead of you, but you're strong and committed in your love. Good luck. I'd found your blog a few weeks ago via Love Joy Feminism and I look forward to continuing to read your posts here.

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  77. Blessings to you and yours and thank you for sharing this, it was wonderful and inspiring.

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  78. Write a book. Please. Your story is so powerful and moving and necessary. I haven't been a Christian for more than 25 years, but I do remember ". . . and the greatest of these is love" - you have lived that commandment to its fullest and continue to do so. May you and your family walk in Beauty, Balance, and Delight for the rest of your lives.

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  79. Thank YOU for sharing. Blessings on you both as you continue to live authentic lives. If there is a divine person (a "god", if you will), they must be pleased.

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  80. You and Dee are very brave, and I wish you the best of luck.

    As someone who was raised by authoritative (and abusive) parents, it took me until midway through college to figure out a lot of stuff. At 41, I'm still unpacking emotional baggage.

    YOU - both of you - are doing right by each other, caring for each other, and clearly you're both utterly in love. I'm not Christian, but I do know your faith even though I follow my own path to the divine. I can't imagine a God, who is love, to see anything wrong with raising children in love and partnership.

    Blessings on your family,
    Maggie

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  81. I would like to suggest the United Church of Christ to you. We have a general policy of open and affirming for the LGBT community. In fact, the pastor of my church is gay and has a husband. My mom's UCC church in the next town over from me has been doing a campaign titled something like "our children don't belong in closets". Fourth of July float and everything.

    ps- you should write a book.

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  82. This is a wonderful beautiful story and I am so grateful to you both for sharing it. I'm a liberal feminist queer and so I often worry about the folks like me who were raised in environments like you two were - there is so much death and heartache and it is so unbelievably wonderful that you could escape that and build a lovely life together. The kind of God I believe in would totally approve. So many blessings to you and your family!

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  83. A true love story. I'm in tears. I wish you both the best!

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  84. What a beautiful, uplifting story; thank you so much for sharing it. I'm happily married to a heterosexual man, but I understand at least your struggle with religion and God. I grew up Mormon, but now I call myself an animist/agnostic, and have never been happier.

    I was directed to your story from the Jezebel website, and I am so grateful to have stumbled upon it. Your strength blows me away. I wish you a beautiful life full of love.

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  85. Hugs, hugs, hugs, hugs. That was an amazing series. Honestly, when I got to the end my thoughts basically just consisted of "Oh man I love you!" even though I don't actually, um, know you.

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  86. Clap. Clap. Clap. Clap. Virtual Standing O.

    That was amazing - your story is profound and I would like to thank you for sharing it.

    My husband and I transitioned from a "straight couple" to a gay couple about a decade ago so much of it was familiar. However we are both long time atheists so we did not have to battle the same issues that you did. However as a physician who treats many transgender patients I have patients who struggle with the same sort of religious issues that you two have. I will be keeping the link for this series in my list of resources/readings for patients in that situation. Your openness and frank discussion of your experiences could be helpful.

    Best of luck to both of you!

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  87. What a wonderful story, thank you so much for sharing it.

    Our 5 year old daughter is transgender and began affirming her female gender 9 months ago, shortly before her 5th birthday. It's been so amazing watching her blossom and become a truly happy child in her skin, finally.

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  88. That was beautiful, Melissa. Thank you, and all best wishes to you and your family.

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  89. I'm so proud of you and your family!

    I have to admit that I skimmed most of the posts. Please understand that it isn't a reflection on your writing but that I knew the content would be very difficult for me to read. What you wrote here describes so much of the last several years of my life; I transitioned and my marriage has survived it. My wife says that she sees again the happy, engaged person that she once knew me to be. At 33, just after changing jobs and moving to a different state, I began my second attempt to transition (my first was at 19 and did *not* go well.)
    Nearly three years later I did transition completely. That time was filled with many tears, both of joy and pain, and we did come close to separating, but we decided that we wanted to fix our relationship and would do what it took to do so.

    We both accepted at the outset that we could lose contact with our families. I did lose contact with most of my family. The last group was in a particularly painful way: at Christmas, ten months after I told them that I was transitioning, and, basically, as three generations of my family were to sit down for our first dinner together since the start of the year. In the pain I felt from that, though, I realized something very important: while there are many things I would forego to have them back in my life, my transition is not one of them.

    Also, the course you are on may pay a dividend for your Hunnie, too. I transitioned while working for a particular employer (a US public/state
    university) and name/pronoun issues were persistent there. Even though I worked hard to control my reaction every instance of the wrong pronoun or name stung - there was an emotional toll for it. Fortunately, I planned to leave that employer as I was very much not happy with the work environment as a state employee. Less than a year after I transitioned at work I took a position with a company at which I am only known as myself. I was able to leave that past behind and it has been an incredible relief, so much that I was aware of the impact it had on me just three days into the job. had on me just three days into the job.

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  90. Love to you and yours. Just...BIG BIG love. <3

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  91. I would like you to know that I think you are a beautiful human being. I followed links to other blog posts and read about your feelings towards your upbringing, and the way you feel about raising your children, the way you think of them as fellow people to guide and help grow, not control. Your level of awareness and compassion is incredible. I'm so glad you and your spouse are living the way is right for you. It sounds like both of you are happier being your true selves, and your children are very lucky to have such wonderful parents who treat them with compassion and respect. You seem to have so much respect and compassion for all of your fellow human beings.

    I wish you the absolute best in your life, wherever it takes you, and wherever you take it.

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  92. Thank you for sharing your story. It definitely gives me hope for the future. Good luck to you and your family!

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  93. I am feeling very inspired and deeply touched--thank you for sharing your family's journey. It is a privilege to know you and your family's story, and I wish you all so much happiness, strength, and joy!!

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  94. Another person coming from Jezebel, here. It's all been said before, but I still feel the need to comment: yours is a wonderful -- though very bumpy, obviously -- love story and I think it's amazing that the two of you found each other in the environment you both were raised in.

    You've gained a new reader. I hope everything continues to go well for your family.

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  95. Hi Melissa

    You're not alone, you know. I admit, coming from such a straight-laced Fundamentalist background gave you some additional challenges, but you've coped admirably. I should give the obligatory compliments about your courage and honesty now, joining in the chorus, so please consider that done. You both deserve them, and it would not be Right for me to omit them.

    Now comes the rest of your life. Let's deal with the children first, the most important things. The evidence says they'll be fine. Ms Action's age is getting close to a tricky period, but past experience says that 5 and under is the ideal time for kids to cope with a transitioning parent.

    That's been my own experience, though my transition was a little different from the usual kind.

    A quick digression and lecture (sorry, I teach grad students at University, so it's a habit). You know that some people are born Intersex, yes? With bodies neither fully male nor fully female? There are hundreds of biological situations that can result in this, some genetic, others by anomalies in foetal environment, some just random.

    A very few kinds of these situations can result in an apparent natural change of sex. Usually from female-looking at birth to male-looking later. Which is great for the boys as it effectively cures Transsexuality, an interesting experience for those who are bi-gender, but a nightmare for the girls.

    See RE: SALLY (SPECIAL MEDICAL PROCEDURE) [2010] FamCA 237 for just such a case. A girl requesting permission from the Family Court of Australia to stop and reverse such a natural change.

    That example was of 5-alpha-reductase-2 deficiency (5ARD). 17-beta-hydroxysteroid-dehydrogenase-3 deficiency (17BHSD) has similar effects.

    3BHSD and a few other situations can occasionally cause a change in the other direction, sometimes quite late in life.

    A funny thing happened to me in 2005, at age 47, with a 3-year-old child... one most welcome, as I'd known I was female since age 10 at least, but inconvenient to say the least.

    We're still married and just as much in love as we ever were (though alas, neither of us are lesbian, or even Bi). Our son is doing famously. So your marriage, and love story, is in no danger.

    I'm not going to pry about your partner's medical situation. Transsexuality is very variable, there are degrees. Some require hormones. Some don't. Some require surgery. Some don't. Feel free to contact me on this privately, I can show you where to get information, and have some experience here.

    Her brain, like all women's, is feminised - as is yours. Which parts and to what degree vary. Some - those with a strongly feminised SPL (superior parietal lobule) require corrective surgery if transsexual or having had a mastectomy. Others can live with it.

    There's a lot on the science of sex and gender on this reference page, with URLs, if you wish to understand the biology of it.

    One thing your story has given me. Some hope. You see, the comments here have not been a foetid mass of hatred, ridicule, contempt, malice and spite "In Jesus Name". That is unusual. Unique even. Things are getting better.

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  96. Hi Melissa, I too would like to add my thanks for writing your inspiring and marvelous story. I came across a website that might be of interest to you. It has some fun materials for kids about life. For example a coloring book titled "sometimes the spoon runs away with another spoon" http://benandbirdy.blogspot.com/2012/04/why-be-normal-when-you-could-be-happy.html

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  97. Your story was very powerful and the love that you and your spouse share gives a jaded woman like me hope. I self-identify as queer and atheist, so please don't take me next sentence as a "come back to the fold" sort of gesture.

    This particular entry seemed very torn and conflicted with where you and your family could find a new spiritual home. And I wanted to share some information with you on that subject. Many UCCs (United Church of Christ) are Open and Affirming churches. I (yes, the atheist - raised atheist) attended a UCC frequently in my home town and I was moved by how loving the entire congregation was. And the pastor was a super cute butch, but that isn't at all the reason I went! (you believe me, right?!?!?)

    Anyway, if you'd like more info and are still interested in finding a new spiritual home for your family here is the link to the national UCC website that can help you find a church in your area. http://www.ucc.org/lgbt/

    Otherwise, I wish you and your family nothing but love. Be well and I'm sure to continue reading.

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  98. Thank you for sharing!! This was amazing! You are both so brave. Your story...so well told...so inspiring! Best of luck to your whole family!

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  99. I was linked to your story via this article (http://jezebel.com/5905780/what-happens-when-a-quiverfull-dad-becomes-a-woman), which was itself linked to me on Twitter. I've spent the past four and a half hours since doing nothing but reading through past entries and other things that you have linked (and another hour and a half writing this response).

    I want you to know that, in many ways, I have nothing in common with you. I have never been married, was not raised in a Christian family (much less a fundamentalist Christian family), have no children. I don't feel as though I was abused as a child, and I have never helped a friend through transition, much less a significant other/partner.

    But this doesn't mean I disagree with you or look down on you. In fact, I admire you and your spouse considerably for what the two of you have done for yourselves and for each other, and for having the courage and strength to be open and honest with each other and with your children—and even more so for being able to be open and honest with people outside the home.

    Your blog has brought tears to my eyes on numerous occasions tonight. Part of that is because this is the first time I have ever learned about the experiences of someone growing up in a household like yours. Seeing the vast differences between our lives has been...I can't even really think of words to describe it. In particular, through reading through this journey and clicking through the links to your previous posts of other journeys that have led you here, all of the opinions about women, childbirth, and self-worth I have always taken for granted began to stick out. It was very jarring for me to realize that, at the time you wrote these posts, you were just then discovering things I had always thought people knew about or saw as obvious and either chose (consciously or not) to ignore, or were forced against their will to conform. Realizing just how much you have changed over such a short amount of time, how much dedication and energy you have put into making yourself better by *your* standards, has definitely been an affirming experience.

    The other part of the reason I've found myself having to gulp back tears as I read tonight is that despite the many things that make your situation unique, your writing style, and the things you choose to focus on in your writing, are things that most people can relate to in at least some way, if they try. Your posts about gender roles and stereotypes, about living with (and learning to break out of) low self-esteem, of positive rather than punitive parenting, could apply to nearly anyone. Even if someone is not a parent, or has never had low self-esteem, or has tried their best to break out of gender roles, reading about these things opens a new window to understanding, and people can use your insights and perspective to inform the way they think about other things they might take for granted.

    Earlier I listed our many differences, and when I first started reading your story, they were what stuck out. As I started learning more about you, though, I realized that however much we may be different, we also have a surprising amount in common. Like you, I am an eldest daughter who was often expected to take care of my siblings. While my parents were not Christian, we were raised with very specific expectations regarding our behavior and how we were to treat others according to their behavior (including LGBTQ people). My mother had definite anger management issues when she was raising us, some of which she still suffers from to this day.

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  100. (continued from previous comment)

    I have had problems with depression. I have had problems reconciling myself with the things I feel I'm expected to achieve. I have had problems living my life for the perceptions of others. I have been overly sensitive to criticism from significant others, which has often contributed to what may be a self-fulfilling cycle. I've been considered oversubmissive or codependent by men I've been with romantically. I've often also caught myself being startled or disbelieving when significant others acknowledge me for being right or making sense, as though that's not "allowed". From things I've picked up regarding the timeline of your story, I think we're even about the same age (I will be turning 27 in July).

    And, while I've never turned to any Christian denomination, I've always felt a deep need for and appreciation of faith in my life. I feel as though many people who may have gone through journeys similar to yours, at least in my experience, were either raised atheist/secular/agnostic or became so as a response to overly repressive religious upbringings. Because of that (I think), many of these people also seem to be extremely hostile towards Christianity and antagonistic towards religion or faith in general. Of course, there are exceptions, and even outside of these exceptions people seem to be understanding and accepting. In general though, I don't think that letting yourselves be who you are is inherently incompatible with being Christian.

    In this post, you say, "I cannot understand why a god would create such diversity in people and then demand that they all live the same life in the exact same manner," and I agree. In previous posts where you've mentioned questions you've had about Christianity, you've said similar things, and they make equal sense. I feel that if there is a God, the infinite diversity of humanity is a gift from God and not a curse that must be corrected. I feel that if God created diversity, it could only be to celebrate diversity, to have more personalities and facets and features to love and cherish. Perhaps it's the churches that are flawed when they try to interpret God's will. I remember you mentioning in other posts how widely churches can differ based on interpretation of the Bible (which has, in itself, gone through many layers of human interpretation over the centuries). Perhaps all of the restrictions and condemnations are excesses. Perhaps it is enough just to show love, compassion, and a desire to learn and understand; to celebrate God by celebrating the breadth of His creativity in the diversity of His creations. I have had no seminarial or other religious education; I'm just saying what makes sense to me. I realize that, in terms of written dogma of most Christian denominations, there is no place for my feelings on this matter. However, despite my mostly secular upbringing and lifestyle, I find a sort of comfort and warmth in the idea that if a Creator exists, he is like the one I described above.

    As I read your struggle with reconciling who you are with what you've always believed, and as I think about the strange and wonderful journey you and your Hunnie have gone through and still have ahead, I find myself still in awe at how two people who had no idea how much they could help each other and be wonderful for each other met, fell in love, and stayed together to discover the rest of their story. The fact that you found each other and trusted each other enough to arrive at this point, looking ahead towards the future, is the closest thing to a real-life miracle I have ever heard of. Whatever you end up deciding in regards to your questions on faith, I feel that you are truly blessed.

    Thank you for sharing your pain, your struggles, your love and your compassion with us. I wish nothing but all the best for you and your family.

    -M.

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  101. i was really moved reading this.
    lots of love to you and your family! :)

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  102. At the risk of becoming an echo in the adorable-ness, thank you!

    I consider myself transgender, although I'm choosing not to transition (for a few reasons, but largely because it would be harder for me to look almost right and then see that one little thing that was wrong) and my dearest friends are a bisexual woman and her transgender fiancée.

    It's wonderful to see a family proving that the anti-family right wing are wrong about us all...

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  103. I am so deeply and moved by your story, thank you for sharing your journey and that of your family with us. God brought you and your hunni together, his ways are not always obvious and he moves in ways that works with our own capacities and understanding. Jesus accepted everyone on their own terms, and as you continue to journey if you want you will find a church that truly serves in the ways of Jesus.

    Your children will grow up beautiful and wise and understanding and I think that you are an amazing spouse, partner and mom.

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  104. Thanks for telling your story. Sorry about all the rejection this has earned you. If it doesn't look like love, it has nothing to do with Jesus. Unfortunately, fundamentalism doesn't look much like love. I suppose that's what happens when you make an idol out of the text, rather than relying on the gospel and Jesus as your source. You might like this:http://gospelfutures.org/2012/02/27/why-story/

    Or not. I found it helpful. But anyway, I commend you for your loving response to your spouse, and for your openness in your journey. I don't understand the 'whys' behind the experience of being transgendered, but my lack of understanding does not in any way invalidate your spouse's experience. (The opposite attitude strikes me as terribly presumptuous). In any case, you are an inspiration and an encouragement to me - a feminist Jesus-follower. :)

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  105. As a bisexual agnostic who grew up among fundamentalist Christians, I found a lot to empathize with in both of your stories. It warmed my heart to read these posts and I'm so glad you're both happy and free now. I myself am only just beginning to deal with the legacy of shame and repression that I inherited. So much better, so much freer, to learn that acceptance is good for you! I wish you and your spouse and your children the best.

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  106. I was directed to your blog by my niece on Facebook. I appreciate your willingness to share your journey. I am saddened that in all of your research you did not find or were not helped by Metropolitan Community Church. I am a pastor in the denomination and we have a strong history of ministry to those marginalized by their gender attraction and/or gender expression. I would encourage you to look for an MCC congregation in your area. You might also want to look for writings by Justin Tannis a F-M theologian who previously worked for our denomination. Also, look for writings by Julie Nemecek julienemecek.blogspot.com/ who is a M-F who worked at Spring Arbor University which is affiliated with the Free Methodist church. I hope and pray for all the best for you, your spouse, and your family.
    Rev. Bob Bond, bondr@tir.com

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  107. I was directed to your blog by my niece from Facebook. I appreciate your sharing of your journey. You write very well, allowing us to comprehend your struggles and your joys in discovering how to live authentically. I am saddened that your research either did not direct you to Metropolitan Community Churches or you did not find anything of value there. The denomination seeks to minister to those marginalized by their gender attraction or gender expression. We go beyond accepting or affirming to being a denomination where the leadership primarily identifies as proudly queer and Christian. Justin Tannis, a F-M, and you might appreciate reading some of his works. I would also suggest you look at some writings from and about Julie Nemece, a M-F, former employee of Spring Arbor University, a college affiliated with Free Methodist Church. She and her wife had a very similar journey to you and your spouse. julienemecek.blogspot.com/ I hope and pray for all the best for you, your spouse, and your family.
    Rev. Bob Bond, intentional interim pastor, MCC Louisville, Louisville, KY USA

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  108. Thank you for sharing your wonderful story

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  109. Your story is really inspiring, and it's important for you to have shared it so that others know they aren't alone. I hope you continue to receive positive and neutral feedback rather than hostility. Best wishes to you and your family.

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  110. This series brought tears to my eyes by the end. I'm a 22-year-old transgirl, so constantly, I found myself nodding enthusiastically as I related to experiences in your spouse's life.

    This December, I will graduate college with a double-major degree, and I'm admittedly terrified of entering the real world. But at the same time, I'm more optimistic and excited than I have been in years, because I'll be entering that world living genuinely and authentically for the first time in my life. Transitioning, while a challenge and a struggle, has been the single best improvement to my happiness, confidence, and appreciation of existence in my life.

    Dee, you're an amazing woman, and I am honored to have read about you. I wish you the best for you, your spouse, and your family.

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  111. This is without question the most beautiful story of love and living authentically I've ever heard. Thank you for sharing. Best of luck to you and your family.

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  112. This is an amazing story. Thank you so much for sharing it with us.

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  113. Thank you so much for sharing this with us, Melissa. It is a beautiful story and I wish you, your spouse, and children all the luck and love in the world.

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  114. That's a beautiful story. Good luck.

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  115. What a beautiful and courageous love story. Thank you for sharing!

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  116. Thank you for skillful writing and critical thinking. Thank you for being authentic and bravely sharing!

    Love and best wishes to your family from ours!
    (two gay former Mormons)

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  117. Hi!
    Firstly, I was directed to your blog by one of my closest friends, a transgendered m2f (T-girl) who I met through my spouse. My spouse is also a T-girl, and I am a bisexual cisgirl. We've been married seven years, and have a six year old daughter. I say this not to brag, but to let you know that I know how you feel about a lot of this.
    My spouse is in the midst of her transition, but is afraid to finish because she doesn't know how it will affect the legality of our marriage if she has her name changed. (If you know, contact me please? aysaskytower@gmail.com)
    In general, people don't understand... I am so glad to see the positive comments here. It makes me feel better about everything going on in my life.

    Thank you for having the courage to post this so candidly.

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    1. Re: Trans Marriage:

      e-mail sent.


      See
      http://www.transgenderlaw.org/resources/transmarriage.pdf and
      http://www.glad.org/uploads/docs/publications/trans-legal-issues.pdf

      "There are no reported decisions invalidating a marriage of a transgender person who transitioned after entering into a lawful marriage. Invalidating such a marriage where both spouses wish to remain married is against public policy and seriously disadvantageous not just to the couple involved, but to the expectations of the community and society that surrounds them.
      However, recently there have been policy decisions made in immigration
      and Social Security where when applying for a spousal benefit the
      government officials have looked at the current genders listed on the couple’s birth certificates and used that to determine whether the marriage was a different-sex marriage (and thus entitled to federal benefits) or a same-sex marriage, and so not entitled to federal benefits because of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA). This is an area of the law which is evolving and so couples should consult an attorney if they have questions about their marriage being respected.

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    2. Thank You! I have contacted several lawyers, but never got any replies. I suppose I will try again, especially since I currently receive SSD benefits, which my spouse gets a stipend from.

      Thanks again.

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  118. i just want to say thank you for writing this. you are truly wonderful and inspiring.

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  119. Thanks for sharing this beautiful story. I cried a couple of times, and I'm glad for the happy ending -- or rather beginning.

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  120. Beautiful.

    It’s an unbelievable love story, a modern day fairy tale.
    Everyone's saying that, and it's so true ! Thank you again for sharing it with us. (I'm also inspired by your take on acceptance all the more now that I know more about the context...)

    I'll join the crowd in saying you should write a book. To be sure writing blog posts and writing a book are two very different things and you might not want to write a book, and if you did you might not want to write about the same subjects. All I'm saying is, if you wrote a book (a book of modern day fairytales ? :) ) I would buy it.

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  121. Like so many others, I came to you via Jezebel. My only purpose in commenting is to wish you and your family a lifetime of love and happiness, learning and laughter.

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  122. "We don't know where we fit anymore"

    It's horrible suddenly having to scramble to find place to fit one's experience and thoughts in general into a coherent world-view. (It was the worst part of my own ex-Christian experience anyway.) Though, if I could be a little presumptuous? I don't know you in real life obviously, but I see you welcomed by the likes of Libby Anne and Incongruous Circumspection. It looks like a good fit for you, don't you think? Christianity hates more than enough people now for us to band together and form our own communities. I think with time these communities are going to develop their own philosophies, and based as they are on reality and authentic experiences, I think they will be the wellspring that replaces the half-truths and outright damaging lies that came before. So I not only do think you fit somewhere, I think your contribution there is important and will be valued (as the reaction to this series already shows).

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  123. I wanted to just add my voice to the Christians (how that's a charged word!) who applaud you and your spouse and wish you a long and happy life together. Your story somewhat reminded me of another one I know, though there are obvious differences. If your spouse still feels the calling to be a minister she could find a community in the United Church of Canada if you decide to move north again. It's the church I grew up in, but it's also the only one I have found that focuses on the message of love in all its splendid forms and would be the one I would have picked on my own. It isn't without its problems but I am amazed by the community I have found there as an adult bringing my son.
    http://bit.ly/l3NlxQ

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  124. As a transsexual woman-one who has recovered from being immersed in the evangelicals at one time-I read your story with tears streaming down my face. I know that it has not been an easy road for you to walk. But you are a wonderful woman to see your spouse for who she is and accept her. Thank you so much for sharing a beautiful story.

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  125. Melissa, Oh my gosh ! I selfishly hope you continue to blog because I want to see what the future holds for your wonderful family. You and your "Hunnie" are amazing. (The quotes are due to the non-standard spelling which I think is how Winnie the Pooh spells it which just makes me like you even more !) Good Luck. These years will probably be challenging as you all balance work, school and a young family. I am sending you good thoughts and hugs. Honestly, I want to say I send you much, much love, but I don't want to be weird because I don't really know you -- I just know you through your blog. Oh, heck -- sending you lots and lots of love from South Carolina ! Maria

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  126. I came here through Jezebel as well...your story is so beautiful and is such a welcome reminder of how full life can be once you stop lying to yourself.

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  127. Gave up an hour of my four hours to sleep because I couldn't stop reading, and now I'm in tears with the rest of the lot. You and Dee inspire me! I wish you both the very best in life, and hope you'll always keep the faith that what you find inside yourself is the truest truth.

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  128. "…it just was."

    Thank you for this. I have lost hope that the fundamentalist side of my large southern family will ever understand those three words.

    Internet hugs to you and your partner. Thank you for being brave enough to share your story.

    (another who came to your blog via jezebel)

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  129. I wish you and your Hunnie all the joy and happiness together in your future together. God bless you both; I believe you are, and always have been in his heart and love. What an example you two are to love, and commitment, and faith. Thank you for sharing your inspirational story.

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  130. As the mother of a 17 yo transgender daughter, I found your story to be enlightening and uplifting. How lucky you both are!

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  131. I'm at a loss for words. This story is beautiful. It is a testament to you and Hunnie and the strength of your love for one another that you have come through this with family, marriage and sanity intact. The question one friend posed about "would you want your kids exposed to that" -- yes, I would like to live near warm, loving families, with children or not, who value being true to themselves over keeping up appearances. "Normal" is only a setting on the washing machine. Be well.

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  132. I just discovered your blog, and I was touched. I wanted to offer you some reassurance as someone who grew up in a very conservative community in Ohio in the 80s with lesbian moms. At times it was difficult, because we had to lie about who my second mom was. But my family was loving and strong, and as an adult, my moms are my best friends. And I didn't do so badly either. I am a scientist with a PhD from an Ivy league school I left Ohio when I was 18 for the east coast and being in a place where no one judges my family has been so freeing.
    I would be happy to answer any questions you might have about leaving the conservative Christian church or growing up with lesbian moms. senewell @ gmail.com

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  133. Thank you very much for writing this. By sharing your story you have given hope to hundreds, proving that yes this life works, yes families can come in many forms, all that matters is that love and authenticity is present in them. I am sure you children will be all the better for you and your spouse living authentic lives with compassion for each other.

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  134. This brought tears to my eyes. As a straight female with friends of all orientations, and friends who have been threatened and harmed because of those orientations, I say brava to you both for being so brave and sharing your incredible story. Thank you for letting me read it. May your whole family continue to experience such love and happiness.

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  135. Thanks for sharing your story. You've given me a lot to think about.

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  136. What an amazing story! Your children are fortunate to have two parents who love each other and who love each one of them - and who will be accepting of who they are as they grow up. You are unbelievably brave and strong for sharing this story with the world and I wish you and your family all the best!

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  137. I had tears in my eyes. It is so amazing that you two, after 7 years, truly know each other, and love each other deeply.

    The journey to this point has been hard, and you will always face struggles, but this story to me is an absolute triumph. I am so happy for both of you.

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  138. Melissa,

    I have a slightly different take on everything I've read here than that which I've seen from other posters leaving comments.

    I agree with the vast majority - your story is amazing. It is full of hope and love and moments of perfect beauty, and I enjoyed reading every line.

    But what I find even more striking and comment worthy are, in fact, the comments that have been left for you.

    I am an agnostic bisexual woman happily married for 10 years this coming Friday to a bisexual man. So yes, very LGBTQ-friendly here. I've been advocating for LGBTQ equality since I attended my first Pride parade in Chicago when I was 14. I'll be 41 later this month. In that time, I've had countless negative experiences with individuals who identify as 'religious.' Those experiences can turn the brightest heart black and heavy after a while... and on more than one occasion I've found my own thoughts towards those who identify as religious to be in complete conflict with everything else I believe and hold true.

    But I have to say to you, and especially to your commentators - sitting here reading these comments has done more to heal my own prejudices against "people of faith" than anything else ever has. I see people walking the talk I believe Jesus exemplified. I hear the loving grace in their words and their intentions. I see faith that is rooted in love, not dogma or doctrine or the dictates of man on behalf of a god created in THEIR image.

    I find it humbling. I find it uplifting. I find it gives me hope. And I find it beautiful.

    Thank you for creating a space where I could see and experience that... and thank you to the commentators for sharing their light in support of you and your beloved spouse and children.

    I wish you all love and joy... and above all, peace.

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  139. Wow, just wow. SO much props to you for not only going through such a process with such love and grace, but to have the skill and focus to share it as well.

    What a great testament to the belief that the best relationships don't just happen, but are the result of hard work, open communication, respect and trust.

    What lucky children you have, to grow up in such a loving and open home.

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  140. My lovely wife and I (hubby) are probably on a similar journey. I say probably because I just started therapy. She's known for many years about my feelings and has been great. The progression has been slow, but steady. We have young kids and have struggled with our faith, fundamentalist too back then. Your story brought tears to my eyes, the striking similarities. godspeed.

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  141. I am in awe of your strength - I wish you and your family all the best. Know that there are people all over who support you, and others in your position, along your journey.

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  142. My family went through this. I transitioned at work, with three hundred co-workers all cheering me on but one. His loss. I'm now one of two moms of four grown kids and have three amazing granddaughters. And Beloved and I are still together, after thirty-five terrific years. Here's to you, Melissa!

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    1. Wow, that's really moving- really encouraging, and helps me to feel a little less sad about the state of society.

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  143. I am so happy for both of you. You rock!

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  144. I wish Houston was your new city because I'd love to hang out with you :)

    Much peace and love going into the future. You two are truly lucky to have found each other.

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  145. What an incredible story! I wish you much happiness in your new city.

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  146. I am so glad I followed this link. I am so glad you have told your (and your family's) story. I have a lot of my own struggles with religion separate from my faith - in that my relationship with God doesn't always "fit" what is described in religion (Christianity) but I don't believe that makes it any less valid. I find God revealing real truths to me when I am listening only to God and no one else. It took stepping away from the church I was raised in to experience this though and I still struggle with wanting to reconcile the place I built my faith and how I will incorporate that into my child's life. I really enjoyed reading this and will be reading more. Thanks for sharing!

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  147. Your beautiful story has moved me so much, I'm literally in tears in my office. Thank you for sharing. I wish your family health and happiness.

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  148. Melissa,

    I just wanted you to know you're not alone in such a journey. I have been transitioning for the past two years, and only just went full time recently. My father is Mormon, and my wife and I struggled with many of the same issues and questions your family did, although our own religious beliefs (atheist and pagan) had nothing to say on the matter. We both have obsessed over wat effect this will have on our three cildren (9,6, and 2). While such stories are rare, what struck me was that your reasons for remaining in the marriage were startlingly similar to those of my spouse. I sincerely hope you and your family find peace and happiness on the path you're on.


    -Brynn

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  149. Thank you for giving me hope. :)

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  150. This is a very thought-provoking BRUTIFUL story, and I learned a lot. Perhaps the personal story will promote tolerance among people who have never read a first-hand account like this before. I wish you and your family every happiness! =-)

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  151. This is a very thought-provoking essay. I hope it will promote tolerance among people who perhaps have never read a first person account. Sharing it on FB. Sending positive thoughts your way!

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  152. This is honestly one of the most positive things I've read recently, I swear I smiled like an idiot at my screen after I had read your conclusion.

    Both of you are women hurt by a fundamentalist patriarchal society and reading your progress and your happy "beginning" (ha, repeating words of someone above) makes me all hopeful and warm inside (gosh, I'm a sap...). You write wonderfully and are able to stir lots of feelings in your readers, I'd honestly buy your book. I need to read more of your blog now ;) .

    I have no similar experiences to share and when I've been a teen I thought Catholic Poland and my hometown were the Worst. Then internet happened and then I moved away and seen more of the world and became horrified. Your story and the responses are so optimistic that hey, maybe there's hope for all those manipulative religions out there and maybe one day women will have it better? I doubt that it'll happen in my lifetime, but...

    Okay, done rambling, best luck to your family :) .

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  153. I just read this series and I want to say thank you for being open and so brave! It is such an amazing story. I can understand your frustrations with "church people" and not knowing where you fit in. But I just want to say, as a Christian who is very "liberal" and accepting, that there are some of us out here, and I feel like you shouldn't give up looking for God in this world. Good luck!

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  154. I read everything you have written and I am definitely disappointed in the ending. I was hoping to read something in the conclusion similar to, "God is bigger than our personal feelings," but obviously that isn't so. I see that you and your husband both tried hard to be faithful to God, but I can see you took a not so wise approach. It's not about about trying harder to be faithful to God, but trusting more. By trusting, I mean trusting that God does have plans to further you and not harm you. Many people tend to lose sight of this, especially when they wonder how long they will have to "struggle". How much can God ask of us? There's no limit to what God can ask of us. If there was a limit, then it wouldn't be faith.

    Please don't have the thought process of, "How does God fit into my life?" That is definitely not the question to be asking. If God is God to you, then you wouldn't be trying to fit Him into your life, but instead He would be king of your life.

    Christopher Yuan
    http://www.youtube.com/user/christopheryuan

    This is the sermon he presented at my church.
    http://www.harvest-community.org/podcast/?p=episode&name=2011-09-18_hcc_2011918_running_the_race.mp3
    I believe one of the best things he said was, "Change is not the absence of struggles, but change is the freedom to choose holiness in the midst of our struggles."

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  155. I read every single word of every single part. It was interesting to read hear your testimony as well as your husband's. I must say in the end I was disappointed, because in your conclusion there was no, "God is bigger than my personal feelings," or anything similar to that. It was sad to see you two not persevere after so many years of struggling. You two tried so hard to be more faithful to God, but it's not about trying harder, it's about TRUSTING more. By trusting more, I mean trusting that God has plans to further and prosper you two and not harm you two. If God was truly God to you, then He would king over your life. If He was king over your life, then you would know the answer to this question, "What is there that God cannot ask of you?" The answer is there is nothing and no limit to what God can ask of you. Look at Abraham in the Bible.

    I do commend you two for struggling as long as y'all did, because one cannot control how they feel, but they can control what they do. To be honest regardless of being saved, one will always struggle with sin, but do you fight it? Do you cling to the Rock of your salvation? If you stumble and fall, do you get back up with a repenting heart? One must continue to keep trying to fight the good fight and trust God more and more if they want to truly grow.

    You should check out Christopher Yuan. Here's his youtube and you'll see variations of his testimony.
    http://www.youtube.com/user/christopheryuan

    Here's the sermon/testimony he presented at my church.
    http://www.harvest-community.org/podcast/?p=episode&name=2011-09-18_hcc_2011918_running_the_race.mp3
    I believe one of the best things he said was, "Change is not the absence of struggles, but change is the freedom to choose holiness in the midst of our struggles."

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  156. Thank you so much for sharing your story. As a young trans and genderqueer person with an intersexed and trans spouse, I have had a really hard time finding parental narratives that I can identify with, and I have a lot of fear of not even being allowed to get pregnant (like I want to), let alone allowed custody of children. A lot of my fears about being a trans parent are based in ignorance, so thank you for being brave. I feel less alone, and you telling your family's story has reminded me of why it is so important to talk about my life and my experiences: because somewhere, there might be someone else, someone who is just starting on their journey or someone who feels alone, who might need to read my story.

    *hugs* Thank you for being so brave. Because it is brave, talking about your own life to anyone, even strangers you never see. I am a new reader, but I will be here now. My spouse started in much the same insular, isolated Christian upbringing (though far more abusive), and it's been a struggle for me to understand that part of his life, since I was raised with a purposeful lack of any kind of belief system, despite the prejudices and moral disapproval I also faced.

    Again, thank you. Thank you so much.

    -Bee

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  157. That was such a beautiful story. Thank you for being so raw and truthful with your journey I for one have been enlightened. Take a bow ladies you both deserve it!

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  158. You are amazing for sharing this so beautifully. I'm glad that you two have found such a place of peace to start transition from! I love it when people can take the tough path they have been given (no offense - I imagine you might agree that while worthwhile it's not easy!) and navigate it so gracefully and grow as people - your compassion towards others is something I wish to emulate. I belong to an Episcopal church where the minister is a lesbian, it's great and friendly; you might want to check out an Episcopal (or Anglican, I guess, if you're in Canada?) church near you. I feel as though God gave you and your spouse a great gift in each other, what a love story!

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  159. Your children are amazing blessed for having such awesome, loving, accepting parts. Best wishes; the world could use more people like you and your spouse.

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  160. I read a book from the 1800's that it was called "The Mission Statement of Women" ... in this book, it clearly defined and said that boys and girls had to be raised a certain way - if you did not raise them this way, you would twist the sexes - btw this is a Catholic Book.

    Your life is clear example of the twisting of the sexes - you are a man and your "husband" is a woman - you were raised in an institutionalized setting - your husband was raised by an overbearing mother who coddled him.

    Since the 1960's it is very clear to see how this process has taken place --women are butches to say the least and men are effeminate.

    You by accepting this, allowed your husband to live his effeminacy to the max.

    If you once believed in God, then you have to understand that it is very clear in the bible that men who act effeminate will be condemned and visa versa.

    You write this stuff so people can see that you are "good, honest" people who had no other choice - but all you are doing is encouraging a nation to "come out of the closet" and they will, because like I said, the sexes have been twisted.

    I will be copying this and sharing it with others so that I can show them - how the Church ALWAYS, knew what she was talking about.

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    1. Mmm ... 19th century, wasn't it when they randomly decided what's a woman's place? I remember skimming through this book of yours it was hilarious, I prefer Jane Austen to take care of satire thank you very much.

      Where were you brought up? What Bible did you read? Are you aware that in Catholicism the Old Testament doesn't apply?

      I'm not riling you up, I'm off episcopalian European Catholicism and I see massive differences.

      @Melissa: I can see what you mean and I'm sorry to replying to a hater, but I'm genuinely curious :( . This book was criticised even by scholars of the time, was shared in humour sections in newspapers. I have it mentioned in my newspaper history book from my media course somewhere.

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  161. Well well well, my first real hater comment since I started moderating. I wasn't sure whether or not to publish, your comment really has no point. But the fact that you are citing random books published 200 years ago as your source was just to funny not to share.

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  162. What a beautiful story. Thank you for sharing it. I wish you and your family all the best, and hope your loving example will open up more hearts and minds.

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  163. Well, I'd like to provide a counterpoint to Mr/Ms. Anonymous hater. I was a liberal/progressive until shortly before I graduated high school. Now I am a liberal, progressive Christian. As such, I have to say how perfect it is that God would bring together two people with the secrets you had. That you two could make this journey together, help each other heal together, have a happy and honest life together is absolutely beautiful.

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  164. If anyone ever questions me on love, compassion and acceptance, I'm going to reference your blog and share your story. Beautiful, with an ending just as much as a beginning. Best wishes to you and your family!

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  165. I just read all of your lovely story in one gulp. I have recently discovered a high school classmate is transitioning - this is giving me more insight into what she's going through. Thank you for sharing your story.

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  166. Hi! I just want to say that the unconditional love that you and your wife have for each other is awe-inspiring. I`m so happy that you and her seem healthy for the most part. What you guys have gone through is the type of thing that destroys people.

    I also just want you to know that religion as we know it is a man-made thing. Maybe that will help you in your struggles.

    Thank you so much for your story.

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    1. I realize that the last bit of my comment wasn't as clear as I wanted it to be. What I meant to say is that while religion is a man-made thing, things can exist outside of human institutions.

      Best of luck to you and your family.

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  167. You and Dee are very special people, possessed of extraordinary courage and integrity. I salute you both, and am delighted that you have come through such an arduous journey as more authentic and loving women, and in fact able to be more deeply committed than before. You are truly inspirational. I wish you and your family all the best.

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  168. Chiara Castelnuovo-McKenzieMay 2, 2012 at 6:25 AM

    Thank you for sharing your lovely story. A friend pointed my in this direction, knowing I'd have an interest for obvious reasons- I'm a straight trans woman with a very different history- a young transitioner oh so many years back at 15 (it'll be forty years ago this year, indeed!) with all my experience of marriage and sexual relationships coming after surgery at 21 just after finishing uni. Fwiw, I'm a Quaker and there's no doubt that my faith guided me to where I needed to be.

    Ignore the haters- they aren't worth your time and energy. They simply show their ignorance, hate and prejudice.

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  169. I am so glad to have found your story. I grew up in ATI culture (Bill Gothard's kindgom) and over the last two years have been exploring my own same-sex attraction. While processing my recovery from all of the spiritual abuse, I've been wondering where the other LGBTQ voices were in that culture. I'm so glad you've created a life that works for you. "Permission to Live" is a great way to express what a lot of us need to discover for ourselves. Thanks for shining your light so brightly!

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  170. Just gorgeous. Thank you for sharing your story and your beautiful family and partnership with all of us.

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  171. Amazing and thank you for writing it. It has helped many I am sure who have the same struggles.
    I hope your life is wonderful with your spouse.

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  172. I know theres already 200 comments here, but I had to add my opinion of God. My common response to people who state the God is against GLBTQ or the like is to simply point out that the God I Love would never tell me who else I can Love. No God would turn down a little less hate in the world.

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  173. 1} I am going to 'follow' your blog.

    2} is it okay if I post links to the first part of y'all's story on my FB, LJ and Blogger? I have some GLBTQ friends on my LJ list and... well, I thought I'd pass it along if it was okay with you.

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  174. Thank you for sharing your journey, I also wanted to mention that you are a perfect example of a true christian from what I can see and I believe that because you are the persons that you are, the caring, loving, understanding, compassionate people that you are the Lord blessed you and will continue to do so. My belief is that Faith doesn't fit in a book it fits in your heart and soul and it just so happens that not all hearts are the same. Madam you were blessed when you met your spouse, you were blessed with true love and a loving wonderful family. Sadly that is something that some people never experience in their lifetime. You are fortunate. Many wonderful blesssing for you and yours, that is my wish.

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  175. Beautiful and touching story. :)

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  176. Bugeyedmonster2- Thanks! No problem with sharing, especially if it can be an encouragement to others.

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