As time has gone on since I quit spanking,
I wonder more and more why I used to think that this worked. Yes, I got short
term results when I was spanking my kids. But were they really putting together
the pieces of why they shouldn’t do something? Or were they learning to avoid
situations where mom would hit them? My
2 year old was getting the same pain of having her ankle caught, from the same
actions again and again, and yet it didn’t change her behaviour. Whether she was too distracted to notice when
her foot was getting trapped, or curious enough to try it again, or even just
trying to get some attention from me a couple of times, eventually she stopped
getting her foot stuck in the bars of the chair. But it took several weeks, and
the pain didn’t seem to be a huge motivator for her stopping, she just seemed
to grow out of it.
Pain didn’t train, at least not quickly.
In another example, my 5 year old loves
going barefoot, but she is constantly coming inside with splinters, scrapes and
this week even a bee sting on her foot. I have pointed out that wearing shoes
would prevent most of these injuries, but she continues to run out the door
barefoot almost every day, and even the days where she wears her sandals, I
inevitably find them lying outside on the sidewalk later. The joy of being
barefoot outweighs the risk of getting hurt feet. And that is her choice.
Again, pain doesn’t train.
And do I really want to use pain to train
my children? As I’ve watched my 1 year old learn to walk and run and climb, it
strikes me again. He falls, trips, bumps, and wipes out. But he gets up, and
tries again. Every single one of my children has had that quality of
determination. It’s incredible to watch.
I want him to have that power. Why would I use pain to consistently teach
him that it is risky to try new things?
When a child knows they could get spanked
for a particular thing, their choices change. Is the behaviour worth it? Is the
taste of that stolen piece of candy worth the risk of getting spanked? Is sneaking
outside to run in the sun worth the risk of getting spanked? Is enduring the
spanking for whining worth the attention it gets you from your parent? So I ask
again.
Does pain really train?
It is only when spanking is used as the
only discipline measure (as many of the Christian parenting books teach) that
there appears to be some sort of training. Then no matter what you do, you
could be spanked. If you forget to do a task, you will be spanked. If you take
too long to do a task, you will be spanked. If you do a task incorrectly, you
will be spanked. If you speak up, roll your eyes, disagree, drag your feet,
close a door too loudly, read the wrong book, say the wrong thing, walk the
wrong way, wear the wrong clothes, you could be spanked. Only then (these
authors proclaim) when spanking is used exclusively and consistently, does it
seem to have any real power to train. And I think that in some ways, they are
right. This is where pain does train. But I ask, what exactly does it train
your children to believe? I think this is a question that a post from the ongoing series “Still Crying” answers intensely from experience.
Here
is an excerpt:
If you want your children to see your anger as something to be afraid of, spank them.
If you want your children to sneak behind your back and keep things to themselves to avoid your anger, spank them.
If you want your children to hurt and berate themselves when they feel like they've let themselves down, spank them.
If you want your children to be fed lies like "this hurts me more than it hurts you", spank them.
This sounds familiar. Spanking taught me to
hide what I felt and thought. Spanking taught me that my mistakes made me
deserving of physical harm. Spanking taught me that letting anyone down was not
acceptable. Spanking taught me that it was never OK to be wrong.
I believe pain does train, but it trains dysfunction.
I’ve seen it in my life, in how I was unable to feel or express emotion in
healthy ways, in how I am still terrified of failure, in how I learned to do my
best to please others. And I saw it in the behaviour of my children before we stopped spanking, how they expressed affection less, how they lied more, how
they were afraid of being wrong.
So I ask again.
Does pain really train? And
if it does, what exactly does it teach?
And is that really “the way your child
should go?"
Wow, yeah, that's sounds a lot like the effects of my own upbringing with spanking.
ReplyDeleteI'm in my 20s and still worried about pleasing others, and have had issues with physically punishing myself (punching my legs or slapping myself in the face as hard as possible) along with more general self-hatred/self-censoring. Being bad at something in public is unacceptable to me.
Thanks for the link, Melissa!
-kagekiri
kagekiri- Thanks for reading! I hope you are encouraged by the Still Crying project.
DeleteTrying things and figuring out what hurts and what doesn't is a necessary part of growing up. It also teaches about risks and rewards. Taking risks is not always a bad thing, and the sorts of risks that kids typically take are good experience for later in life.
ReplyDeleteI never tried to insulate my kids from risks, although I did tell them to avoid sticking a knife into a toaster.
Sachi- I also love watching my kids take risks and learn from their adventures. And of course I warn them of danger and watch out for their safety. :)
DeleteSimilar experience is what made me drop Mike Pearl's teachings as well! I had been applying the rod for some months already when my daughter, around 2 yrs old, grabbed a hold of an electric heater. She was crying bc itwas so hot it hurt her hands... But she did not have the "sense" to let go... She waited for me to come rescue her. I realized then how confusing pain can be and that even if the child responds to the pain (crying, freezing in place) they dont have the cause/effect thing down and cannot always fifure out how to avod the pain. I suppose i was already questioning at that point but, that "sealed the deal" so to speak.
ReplyDeleteIm currious how you transitioned from spanking to not spanking.... For me the period was lengthy between saying "i dont want to spank my kids" and letting go of the habbit entirely.... And even now the urge comes back around and i have swatted a leg here or there... Though not at all with the mentality of "training" as i once did... It's usually when it seems that nothing else is working and one is acting out so severely that either he is hurting me or being so difficult that a cant care for the others as i need to. Sometimes it seems a swat is almost a "reflex" . What do you think about this? Do you ever feel tempted to spank now that you're against it.
For me, I had reached the point where I was so burned out/concerned with where my parenting was going, I felt like I should "take a break" from spanking and figure out what I was doing wrong. When I tentatively told my spouse of my plan to take a break, my spouse suggested that we try and see if we could quit entirely. At first I switched to time outs almost exclusively since I was trying to go cold turkey off of spanking I needed to feel like I was doing SOMETHING. I still had times where I felt helpless and ended up swatting someone, and it took me months to break the habit of threatening to spank. It was definetely a reflexive response that I had to combat for months.(I've written a lot more about my journey out of that mindset under the category of "Discipline" on the side of my blog if you want more detail) Today? I would say that I very rarely have the tempation/impulse to spank, and I find it is usually when I am very emotionally overwhelmed with something else going on in my life and my children are triggering those emotions. Thankfully I am to the point where I am learning healthy ways to deal with those impulses, parent my child more gently, and get help for whatever it is I am dealing with.
DeleteI've never been a spanker, always been philosophically opposed. But I was raised by spankers (and shouters, and threateners) and I do feel the impulse. It's hard to learn to parent differently than you were parented.
DeleteWow! This is an excellent point I had not yet considered! Wow! Thanks for writing/posting this!
ReplyDeleteThank you Dara!
DeleteMelissa,
ReplyDeleteThanks for this and other posts you've written on corporal punishment. You've been a huge encouragement to me in my own parenting. Like Africaturtle, I've also stopped spanking but still struggle every once in a while to give those crazy kids of mine a swat. But I feel less anger towards them now than I used to, and I feel our household is far more loving and gentle; especially when I compare it in my head to my own childhood.
Keep it up!
-Mark
Thank you Mark. It is an ongoing struggle of growth and change. Thanks for being on the journey with me!
DeleteI was one of those kids who never wanted to wear shoes. This was on the streets of South Florida. I can't count the times I've majorly cut up my feet but I still didn't care. Even now I can barely tolerate shoes and love wearing my sandals even in the winter.
ReplyDelete:) Sometimes these things are just part of who we are.
DeleteI was fourteen years old the last time I was spanked. I never forgot. I will never forget. And it completely ended any respect I had for my parents.
ReplyDeleteIf my parents had done to an adult what they did to me, they would have had felony charges brought against them.
Persephone- Yes. (((Hugs)))
DeleteAwesome post. My mother beat me as a child for every little infraction. I've spanked my daughter once (something I swore I would never do as I know all too well the harm it causes) and afterwards I hid in my room and cried for half an hour.
ReplyDeleteIt is not always EASIER not to spank, sometimes it is the harder option, but my child is beautifully behaved and polite, so it can be done!
Victoria- I agree, it is not always easier not to spank. I find it strange when people try to argue with me that not spanking your kids is lazy parenting and that spanking takes real work to "do it right", because I did my best to do spanking "right" it was still far less work and involvement than what I do now.
DeleteI was raised with spanking, shouting and threats and it had an incredible effect on my life.
ReplyDeleteI am obese because I pushed my feelings down and comforted myself with food.
I chose never to have children because I didn't think I could be a good parent.
I made terrible life choices because I really didn't know how to choose for myself or think through the consequences.
I have been seriously depressed (not being able to get out of bed) for months or even years at a time, hating myself for it and feeling worthless.
When I was getting married, at 35, I was afraid to ask a woman I had been friends with since the age of 11 to be my maid of honour because my parents did not approve of her and forbid me to see her as a teen. Fortunately my husband to be supported me, I realized how ridiculous it was and my parents never said a word.
I am now 57 and in therapy, still grappling with some of these issues, and the fact that I chose a husband who displays some of the same behaviours. I have been diagnosed as Bi-Polar and through therapy I am learning that my mood depends greatly on his actions, rather than my own feelings. I am reacting the same way I did as a child; being scared, not expressing my feelings, stuffing them down with food.
I have almost left him several times, but I was too scared of what he might say or do if I did. He is not physically violent, or I would have gotten out years ago, but with my therapist I have come to discover that he is emotionally abusive. I didn't recognize it because I grew up that way; to me it feels normal.
I don't know whether I will stay with him or not. As I grow stronger the relationship improves, but I am ready to say "I don't want to live with someone who feels it is acceptable to treat me like this".
Anonymous,
DeleteI can relate to so much that you wrote. I want you to know you are not alone.
I had a similar background, have turned the abuse inward onto myself, am super obese and struggle with depression, anxiety, and PTSD. I'm 44 and chose not to have children and not to marry. I can barely function and feel much like a war veteran, except I do not know what life was like before the war because the warzone was all I knew.
I'm on some new medication and I still struggle but I have hope.
I can't make decisions for you but I want you to know that even as I am i found a man who loves me dearly and unconditionally and I know now that love is not supposed to hurt. You are worth recovery, worth love and worth the ability to function.
Take care, I'm pulling for you!
Oh honey. This post - which I've read more than once- made me cry. Thank you. Right up until now I couldn't explain to you why I beat myself up emotionally, why I'm afraid to upset my partners, why I feel like I have to hide dissenting opinions from everyone. I'm still afraid of getting hurt. On behalf of your children, thank you for being such an amazing parent.
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